Abandoned Codex

Gareth · Admin 2 Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 525

I think I can see which way this poll will go before I even post it, but:
When I first conceived and implemented deathloyal eq, I didn't imagine that so many people would get so much of their equipment made deathloyal, to the degree that they leave very little of value on their corpse at all.
I've toyed with putting the price up, but it seems that this would be depriving the lower levels of the sort of thing that I want them to be able to have, just for the sake of keeping it interesting for the higher-ups (who probably wouldn't appreciate it anyway).
So, there's a couple of possible ways that we can still keep the concept of life and death in the least bit real for the higher ups:
- Deathloyal only has a 75% chance of recovering any individual item from your corpse, so someone with 8 items would still leave 2 on their body.
or
- Deathloyal itself works as normal, but you can only wear up to 6 deathloyal items. There would be an initial one month period in which avs could have deathloyal flags stripped from eq and get a full refund for the qps spent.

Thoughts?

Waldo · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 79

If you're going to change it, I like the idea of being only able to wear 6 or so death loyal items. It will make avatars think harder on which equipment they could not do without and which they could get easier. Off the top of my head, most would want their rings (nails) dloyaled, this visions, weapons, so that's 4 or 5 items, and then they can maybe pick another hard to get item. The 75% chance of a dloyal item being left in the corpse would discourage me from dying and exploring. I'd never know if my important piece of equipment would go away.

Maybe there could be two levels of death loyaling, one that has the 75% chance and would cost 200 qps, and another that costs more, maybe 1000 but has a 100% chance not to stay in your corpse.

Making the death loyal price higher would just hurt the newer avatars and those yet to avatar. They would have to work a lot harder to gain deathloyal equipment, and most of the old ones would already have everything deathloyaled.

Just my thoughts.

Nightblade · Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:22 am Post subject:

My one concern...Deathtraps. Would either option work differently with dts?
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Wedge · Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 89 Location: Hendrix College

I agree w/ Night on dts... they suck. For all I care, if you're pk'd leave everything on the corpse, but please leave the system in tact for peacefuls, dts, and mobs?
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Gareth · Admin 2 Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 525

This discussion does bring to light another possibility - a skill to temporarily loosen the bindings a random DL item has to its owner during pfights.
In other words, a skill (or spell) that if used during a pkill fight will make the victim leave one of his DL items on his corpse.
Most (or all) classes would be able to buy the ability with qps, although thieves would get it to a higher percentage.

Thoughts?

Nightblade · Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:25 am Post subject:

Waldo and I say yay for that! Right Waldo?!
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Wedge · Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 89 Location: Hendrix College

I like that idea as well.
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Saul · Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 7

I must admit, that although I have more than 6 items that I would like to keep deathloyaled, only being able to have 6 deathloyaled would indeed make things more interesting, if not making player fighting in general more realistic and fun.

As to the skill to loosen a deathloyaled item during a player fight, I would not be so sure on, as there are some items that I would rather not have a chance of losing, quest items, ect. ect. Now say there was a special flag on certain "quest" items, and all other items were able to be loosened by this skill, then that would be great.

-Saul

Solitaire · Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 2

i like the idea of dloyaling only 6 items

the spell/skill could be fun as well, but as far as quest items and other things like that i think that their should be a flag excluding them

also a question on the skill, would you target a specific item? or just cast/use the skill and it hits a random piece?

Norik · Avatar 2 Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 58

The system is fine, leave it as it is. Too many people will complain if you make any drastic changes. The skill to "loosen" DL equipment sounds interesting, but there are maybe 5 avs who actively pk or even pfight, so it wont really affect that many people. I think that either decreasing the number of deadlies who dont pk, or making more deadlies actually pk is more important.

I hate it when people whine/bitch when they get pk'ed... youre a deadly, live with it.

Right now I have 35 pieces of DL eq on Norik... thats 7000 qps worth of DLs... whats the point of spending all those qps if you cant wear deathloyal stuff or if it works "sometimes"? If someone invests a lot of qps into their eq, shouldnt they be able to keep it?